Beating Intelligent Design at its own game

At a time I much liked to discuss “Intelligent Design” until I learned that the people supporting it are just not interested in discourse but rather, much like Fox Mulder, want to believe no matter what anybody else might say. You can read all of that here. Be sure to follow the link in the first comment, though, to read some of the actual discussion.

Now, a good friend who knows all about that pointed me to a web site I had not been aware of before, though it is not actually new. It is the web site of the “Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster“, a parody of “Intelligent Design”. By claiming the right of the church’s doctrine to be taught at school, those folks are exposing how weak the same claim made by the supporters of “Intelligent Design” is, too (unless the Constituion be changed).

This approach is probably far more promising than philosophical discourse alone. As must be expected, the only official responses the original open letter to a Kansas School Board in the process of deciding whether or not to include “Intelligent Design” in the curriculum were sent by members of the board already opposing the inclusion. But there are other notable successes. And the approach is also very entertaining at that. The theory is altogether hilarious, though of course Bobby Henderson is experiencing the same kind of reactions from conservative Christians I have received. But if some people feel threatened by this kind of openess of mind, by this kind of open-ended discourse, then that has nothing to do with the kind of freedom the land of the free is advertising. And if the same people refuse to understand, that it is an even bigger threat to people of different opinions if the former make religion more than a private life matter and try to impose their understanding of what will make one go to Heaven or Hell on the latter, that also reminds me of other countries and/or times, not the land of the free and the 21st century.

I wonder whether I can officially become a pastafarian and send my church taxes over there.

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4 thoughts on “Beating Intelligent Design at its own game

  1. […] Check it out! While looking through the blogosphere we stumbled on an interesting post today.Here’s a quick excerpt […]

  2. Stardust says: Start in the beginning, 13.7 billion years ago, splice all those biological view points. All things. all life & all mankind evolved from “simple ancient atoms AND THEY ARE YOU
    Both I,D, groups and Darwin groups due a disservice to God and society

  3. Suppose you meant “do a disservice to God and society”

    For ID it prolly comes as no surprise that I agree. Even for darwinist groups I can agree, when they go out of their way to ridicule the belief and the people holding that belief (though I don’t think that happens quite as often as some of the believers tend to feel).

    The thing that is often forgotten in this tedious debate is that it is not about truth at all (at least not as far as the sciences party is concerned). It is about the difference between thinking and believing.

    I can chose to disbelieve any evidence that the world is older than 10,000 yrs (Or pick any other example. Somebody seems to be writing guidebooks for discussing ID with supporters of darwinism.) As long as I do that because I think the evidence is not conclusive enough and look for other evidence, I’m still moving in the realm of science. If I only disbelieve such evidence because it is against my current belief and I don’t want to change that, then that’s not science.

    That’s the first thing I can’t stand: Somebody telling me he’s objective when he’s not, somebody telling me I’m free, when I’m not, somebody telling me a cause is just when it’s not, somebody lying to me because he thinks I’m to stupid to notice (and perhaps that is hybris).

    Then if we leave the realm of science and start to believe, that’s good. I’m all for believing in something. However, when it comes to believing one must not forget that the only things that make one belief more compelling than another (say, in the Flying Spaghetti Monster) are in the eyes of the believer. And if you fail to acknowledge that, you’re telling a supremacist story, and that’s the second thing I can’t stand: Somebody telling me Whites are better than Blacks, Arians better than Jews, Christians better than Muslims, Americans bettern than Mexicans, you name it — I’ve had enough of it.

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